Enrollment Updates

Tere North · Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:29 am

ST_Lawson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:23 am
Tere North wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:17 am And here it is Thursday, Sept 5. Tenth day at WIU was Friday, Aug 30. Why haven't our numbers been released, and I mean officially like all the other schools who started the same date. I find this more troublesome than that the numbers actually are.
The official "reports" that run to deliver the official numbers don't actually run until Tuesday night. Really, they've only had the numbers for a day. Should be something today or tomorrow probably.

Yes, but how are ISU, SIU, SIUe, ISU, and EIU getting their numbers out given they had the same start date as Western did. In Spring 2019, Western never did put out a press release, though IRP did finally post the numbers.

Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:37 am

Tere North wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:29 am
ST_Lawson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:23 am
Tere North wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:17 am And here it is Thursday, Sept 5. Tenth day at WIU was Friday, Aug 30. Why haven't our numbers been released, and I mean officially like all the other schools who started the same date. I find this more troublesome than that the numbers actually are.
The official "reports" that run to deliver the official numbers don't actually run until Tuesday night. Really, they've only had the numbers for a day. Should be something today or tomorrow probably.
Yes, but how are ISU, SIU, SIUe, ISU, and EIU getting their numbers out given they had the same start date as Western did. In Spring 2019, Western never did put out a press release, though IRP did finally post the numbers.

They probably have a different process for running their numbers that might happen faster than ours does. Also, for ISU and EIU, they have less that they have to do to figure out positive ways of spinning the numbers.

Tere North · Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:45 pm

ST_Lawson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:37 am
Tere North wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:29 am
ST_Lawson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 10:23 am

The official "reports" that run to deliver the official numbers don't actually run until Tuesday night. Really, they've only had the numbers for a day. Should be something today or tomorrow probably.
Yes, but how are ISU, SIU, SIUe, ISU, and EIU getting their numbers out given they had the same start date as Western did. In Spring 2019, Western never did put out a press release, though IRP did finally post the numbers.
They probably have a different process for running their numbers that might happen faster than ours does. Also, for ISU and EIU, they have less that they have to do to figure out positive ways of spinning the numbers.

Sorry, Todd, but I don't buy it. We used to have the numbers out along with the others. Last 3 years of Thomas they kept getting later and later until no numbers press released for Spring 2019 or Summer 2019. SIU doesn't have great numbers. For us failing to release in Spring 2019 allowed the questioning to begin. They could have easily said they weren't what they wanted, but point to a few positives. However, the increased ACT is a false positive because for Fall 2019 new frosh, IL no longer required the ACT in high school, so fewer took it. Our ACT avg went up a bit, but so did the ACT average for the state because of the change. This is typical Joe skewing of numbers.

Admit what they are and work to find out the problems and resolve them.

Fortunately, with Abraham and Frese we have a chance of doing that now instead of trying to blow smoke.

Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:03 pm

Tere North wrote: ↑Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:45 pm Sorry, Todd, but I don't buy it. We used to have the numbers out along with the others. Last 3 years of Thomas they kept getting later and later until no numbers press released for Spring 2019 or Summer 2019. SIU doesn't have great numbers. For us failing to release in Spring 2019 allowed the questioning to begin. They could have easily said they weren't what they wanted, but point to a few positives. However, the increased ACT is a false positive because for Fall 2019 new frosh, IL no longer required the ACT in high school, so fewer took it. Our ACT avg went up a bit, but so did the ACT average for the state because of the change. This is typical Joe skewing of numbers.

Admit what they are and work to find out the problems and resolve them.

Fortunately, with Abraham and Frese we have a chance of doing that now instead of trying to blow smoke.

Well, I don't really know exactly what the process is for other universities...so I don't know how they got the numbers out right away. All I know for certain is that our numbers weren't "official" until the schedule report ran at midnight on Tuesday night. Past that point, I don't know where things go or who has to look at them. Everything else is just an educated guess.

Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:02 pm

http://www.wiu.edu/news/newsrelease.php ... e_id=16622

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wiu712 · Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:13 pm

Macomb Enrollment = 6,432
Quad City Enrollment = 1,192
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Total = 7,624

Total undergraduate enrollment (Macomb and QC) = 5,958.
Total graduate enrollment (Macomb and QC) = 1,666.

Numbers from last year (Fall 2018): Western's total Fall 2018 enrollment was 8,502 [Macomb: 7,235; Quad Cities: 1,267]. Total undergraduate enrollment was 6,754, while total graduate enrollment was 1,748.

Neckfansince71 · Thu Sep 05, 2019 6:19 pm

"We cannot change what has occurred the past few years. What we can do is to get better and do better, and we will. Our students deserve that; the residents of Illinois deserve that. Okay, lets get to work!!!

jc

wiu712 · Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:05 pm

Enrollment at Western Illinois University down 10% in a year.
From the Quad City Times:
https://qctimes.com/news/local/educatio ... op-story-2

Editorial: If laws can't end buyouts like WIU's, boards must.
From the Moline Dispatch-Rock Island Argus:
https://qconline.com/opinion/editorial/ ... 7da0d.html

Illinois colleges ramp up pursuit of rural students: ‘Colleges need to understand more about rural areas — they are kind of in a bubble.’
From the Chicago Tribune:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html

Western_101 · Fri Sep 06, 2019 2:18 am

Hey the Board of Trusties wanted to hire this "ethnic person" from a nondescript second tier university with his basic entity being HBCU.

Cool, let's create an HBCU school in Illinois. Apparently demographics to some degree support this.

Yeah but he was from a good HBCU like Howard. Oh, you mean it was Alabama A&M?

Well we had no other choices and no other good candidates at the time......

wiu712 · Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:32 am

Total enrollment at Illinois State for this year is 20,878. That is a 1.2% increase over the previous school year. That includes 2,628 graduate students and 1,869 transfer students.

Illinois State University says this year’s freshman class is its largest in 33 years: 3,860 freshmen for the 2019-2020 academic year.

Editorial about the "Buy-Out" to President Thomas: Illinois buyout bill looks like a bust.
From the Peoria Journal-Star:
https://www.pjstar.com/opinion/20190905 ... -like-bust