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Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:33 pm
by wiu712
Sad comment on the current times: At last week's Candidate Forum, candidates for the Macomb City Council were asked what the City could do to save Western.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:47 pm
by Neckfansince71
Well crap 712, its WIU/Macomb with out a doubt. Nice the city has finally woken up and decided that the university is a very very very important of the city environment!!! jc

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:46 pm
by rocki
Figured I'd try and beat 712 at this.............https://wqad.com/2019/03/12/macomb-and- ... ZlHTd02VHs

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:09 pm
by wiu712
The above-referenced WQAD News report makes it sound like the "weight" of the Quad Cities campus has the potential to bring down the entire Western "ship".

Might be time to move everything back to Macomb.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:56 pm
by Leatherneck10
wiu712 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:09 pm The above-referenced WQAD News report makes it sound like the "weight" of the Quad Cities campus has the potential to bring down the entire Western "ship".

Might be time to move everything back to Macomb.
The major mistake made in the QC was offering traditional undergraduate programs. There's simply no need for so many on site Bachelor's degrees. Accepting freshmen was a colossal error and it destroyed our relationship with Black Hawk College. Freshmen students on that campus get worse than a community college experience and pay double the c.c. tuition for the honor.

The QC should return to its focus - graduate programs in business and education with a handful of accompanying programs the local labor market needs, including counseling, supply chain, accountancy, human resource management, engineering, engineering tech, and law enforcement. BA in English? RPTA? Liberal Arts and Sciences? No way. There was never a demonstrable need for a full campus in that market, and to go all in on bricks and mortar non-residential higher education in the 21st century? Terrible idea. To do it at the undergraduate level? Borderline criminal.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:03 pm
by Neckfansince71
Leatherneck10,

I totally agree with you regarding the focus of the quad-city campus! Engineering might be the only major I might consider giving BS degrees for! ;) jc

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:25 pm
by wiu712
The state university presidents are to be in Springfield on Thursday (March 14) to make their case to the governor and lawmakers for increased funding.

I can see Pritzker giving the state universities more money in the next budget. But I cannot see him bailing somebody out.

Western will need to examine its spending and determine the Benefit-Versus-Cost in keeping the QC campus.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:34 pm
by Tere North
Leatherneck10 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:56 pm
wiu712 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:09 pm The above-referenced WQAD News report makes it sound like the "weight" of the Quad Cities campus has the potential to bring down the entire Western "ship".

Might be time to move everything back to Macomb.
The major mistake made in the QC was offering traditional undergraduate programs. There's simply no need for so many on site Bachelor's degrees. Accepting freshmen was a colossal error and it destroyed our relationship with Black Hawk College. Freshmen students on that campus get worse than a community college experience and pay double the c.c. tuition for the honor.

The QC should return to its focus - graduate programs in business and education with a handful of accompanying programs the local labor market needs, including counseling, supply chain, accountancy, human resource management, engineering, engineering tech, and law enforcement. BA in English? RPTA? Liberal Arts and Sciences? No way. There was never a demonstrable need for a full campus in that market, and to go all in on bricks and mortar non-residential higher education in the 21st century? Terrible idea. To do it at the undergraduate level? Borderline criminal.
Absolutely.
And as a former Ag professor at WIU, I absolutely have to laugh at the addition of an Ag program at QC.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:27 am
by Western_101
Leatherneck10 wrote: Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:56 pm
wiu712 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:09 pm The above-referenced WQAD News report makes it sound like the "weight" of the Quad Cities campus has the potential to bring down the entire Western "ship".

Might be time to move everything back to Macomb.
The major mistake made in the QC was offering traditional undergraduate programs. There's simply no need for so many on site Bachelor's degrees. Accepting freshmen was a colossal error and it destroyed our relationship with Black Hawk College. Freshmen students on that campus get worse than a community college experience and pay double the c.c. tuition for the honor.

The QC should return to its focus - graduate programs in business and education with a handful of accompanying programs the local labor market needs, including counseling, supply chain, accountancy, human resource management, engineering, engineering tech, and law enforcement. BA in English? RPTA? Liberal Arts and Sciences? No way. There was never a demonstrable need for a full campus in that market, and to go all in on bricks and mortar non-residential higher education in the 21st century? Terrible idea. To do it at the undergraduate level? Borderline criminal.

This.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:40 am
by Western_101
Would Deere and Co. or KONE be interested in occupying the nice Quad City space? What is it worth 10/15 Million?