Playoffs?...PLAYOFFS?!?!?

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wiu712 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:57 am
ST_Lawson wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:33 amHighest bidder. Schools submit bids for each round.
Hypothetical Question: Who hosts if neither competing team submits a bid ????

This concept of having to bid to host a playoff game seems very backwards to me. Instead, the NCAA should be paying these home sites for the use of their facilities. The NCAA is using university-owned property for their own financial gain.

We had a much better format back in the 90's when the 16-team field was seeded 1-16. And the team with the higher seed would be the host.
Had to do some digging on that one. From the NCAA FCS Pre-Champs Manual for 2017:
When determining host institutions for playoff games when both teams are unseeded, criteria shall apply as follows:
(1) quality of facility, (2) revenue potential plus estimated net receipts, (3) attendance history and potential, (4) team’s
performance (i.e., conference place finish, head-to-head results and number of Division I opponents), and (5) student-
athlete well-being (e.g., travel and missed class time).
So it sounds like if neither submits bids, then they look at things like the facility, attendance history, etc.

The NCAA does pay the traveling teams travel costs and stuff. Plus, the assumption is that a team hosting places a bid based on what they think they can make back in ticket sales, concessions, etc. A cut of that does go to the NCAA, but for most schools who actually draw a decent crowd, they likely get somewhere around the break-even point on hosting a playoff game.

So, just like how NDSU pays teams like Mississippi Valley State and Robert Morris to come play (without a return game) and FBS teams pay us to come play at their place (without a return game at Hanson Field), the host team should end up making back what they spent and possibly more.
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Should really affect us directly, but for anyone keeping track of the entire bracket, Nichols State lost this evening to Southeastern Louisiana. Nichols State was 8-2 out of the Southland conference and was considered a bubble team assuming no upsets. Well....there was an upset, already.

Nichols is most likely out, which helps the chances of other bubble teams. Likely improves the chances of teams like USD (if they lose), Illinois State (if they win), UNI (assuming they win over Indiana State), and other bubble teams around the FCS.

If we somehow lose pretty badly Saturday, we could be a bubble team as well, so if that were to happen, it helps us out too.
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Someone on AGS put together a list of pretty much the 30 teams who can make the playoffs (24 spots). If you're near the top, you're pretty much a lock for the playoffs. If you're at the bottom, you are very bubbly. Not necessarily in expected order (WIU is the 8th team listed, but we're still a borderline seed if we win solidly). Root for the other teams around us to lose.

James Madison - at 8-2 Elon at 11 AM
Jacksonville State - beat 6-5 Tennessee State on Thursday evening, 36-6
Central Arkansas - hosts 2-8 Abilene Christian at 3 PM
North Dakota State - at 6-4 Illinois State at noon
Sam Houston State - hosts 1-9 Houston Baptist at 1 PM
South Dakota State - at 7-3 South Dakota at 2 PM
Wofford - at 7-3 FBS South Carolina at 3 PM
Western Illinois
Stony Brook - at 4-5 Maine at 11 AM
Elon - hosts 10-0 James Madison at 11 AM
Weber State - hosts 4-6 Idaho State at 3 PM
Southern Utah - hosts 7-3 Northern Arizona at 3:30 PM
South Dakota - hosts 8-2 South Dakota State at 2 PM
New Hampshire - at 3-7 Albany at noon
Samford - hosts 7-3 Furman at 2:30 (AGS's Game of the Week...winner gets in, loser goes home)
Eastern Washington - hosts 0-10 Portland State at 5:05 PM
McNeese - hosts 2-8 Lamar at 7 PM
Furman - at 7-3 Samford at 2:30 PM
Illinois State - hosts 9-1 North Dakota State at noon
Kennesaw State - hosts 9-1 Monmouth at 1 PM (also big game...both 9-1...winner makes playoffs, loser goes home)
Northern Arizona - at 8-2 Southern Utah at 3:30 PM
Northern Iowa - hosts 0-10 Indiana State at 4 PM
Monmouth - at 9-1 Kennesaw State at 1 PM
Delaware - at 4-6 Villanova at noon
Montana - at 4-6 Montana State (Brawl of the Wild) at 1 PM
Western Carolina - at 2-8 FBS North Carolina at 2:00PM
Connecticut Central State - hosts 2-8 Robert Morris at 11 AM
San Diego - hosts 4-6 Marist at 4 PM
Lehigh - hosts 3-7 Lafaytette at 11:30 AM
Colgate - at 1-9 Georgetown at noon
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https://herosports.com/fcs/football-fcs ... -2017-ajaj
Projects us at #8 seed. The full bracket is a work in progress.
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Looks like about 2/3 of the predictions are saying we're an at-large (although the projected matchups do seem to be rather favorable at this point). Around 1/3 have us as the #8 seed. The others ahead of us have another win or two, but we have a very strong SoS and body of work, so it just boils down to what the committee thinks of us.

I'm going to try to be at the selection show party in the morning, but we also have to get ready for an early Thanksgiving lunch up in Monmouth, so we'll see. If I go, I'll for sure record some video...might try to livestream if I can get it figured out.
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One more thing...

Looks like the general thought is that Southern Utah, Stony Brook, Wofford, and WIU are going to be the #7 and #8 seeds and the first two unseeded teams. Most people are leaning towards the other three for the two spots, but we'll see.

Also, the #8 seed is paired up in the same quadrant of the bracket with the #1 seed (likely James Madison). If you see that quadrant come and go without us being announced at #8, we are likely an at-large.
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ST_Lawson wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:29 am One more thing...

Looks like the general thought is that Southern Utah, Stony Brook, Wofford, and WIU are going to be the #7 and #8 seeds and the first two unseeded teams. Most people are leaning towards the other three for the two spots, but we'll see.

Also, the #8 seed is paired up in the same quadrant of the bracket with the #1 seed (likely James Madison). If you see that quadrant come and go without us being announced at #8, we are likely an at-large.
Yeah i was really rooting for Maine today they blew there game against Stony Brooke.
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Pretty good crowd so far
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Keep those of us that can't be there informed, please and thank you!
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