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It is Thursday. You know what that means. Some of you already got a head start on this week's Throwback Thursday Trivia question/analogy:

Macomb is to X + Y
as Myrtle Beach is to Waccamaw * 2

What are X and Y?

Read on to find the (or at least my) answer.

The cities of Macomb, IL and Myrtle Beach, SC may be miles apart but they do (or did) have something very much in common. They both were in very close proximity to some of the finest clay pits in the US. You need good clay to make stoneware and at one time in the late 1800s and early 1900s, Macomb was home to several stoneware and pottery companies including the Macomb Pottery Works:

A sixteen-foot vein of fine clay, recently discovered a few miles from this place, was a few days ago leased by Eddy & Co., of the Macomb Pottery Works, for a term of fifteen years. The clay is as good as in the United States, and the pottery establishment alluded to doubtless has a bonanza.
Daily Inter Ocean (Chicago, Illinois) December 3, 1880

As for Myrtle Beach, a fellow by the name George Bishop moved to the area in 1964 and started Waccamaw Brick Co. and Waccamaw Pottery to leverage the fine clay deposits found along the Intracoastal Waterway. His brick-making firm was sold in 1994 to Palmetto Brick Co. which continues to manufacture bricks in Cheraw.

If you are making bricks and pottery, you also need a good source of water and while I can't say definitively that either location relied on nearby river water as their source for water, I think it is a good possibility. A main tributary of the Illinois River nearby to Macomb is the La Moine River although I think it is more a "stream" these days. The Waccamaw River flows nearby through the Myrtle Beach and Conway areas in South Carolina.

So now we have at least a sensible possibility for what X and Y are in the analogy:

Macomb is to Macomb Pottery Works et. al. + La Moine River
as Myrtle Beach is to Waccamaw Brick Co + Waccamaw River

Welcome back Bodoyle. Thanks for your input, but will say, I was going to use our experience and depth as an advantage. I know you have more scholarships the last 2 years, but don't know if your 2 deep and beyond is enough at this point to wear us down.

True 2 deep (removed 3rd person) and included McShane instead of Ratkovich as he'll likely play.

375 games played on offense with 170 starts. .
498 games played on defense with 220 starts.
Am including any transfers games that were all at the FCS or FBS level.

Throw in some other guys who play and have started like, Fitz, Mayes, Thornton, Hendon, Wheeler, Harper, Slamans and that's an additional 118 games and 45 starts at the D1 level.

OFFENSE
LT 55 Josh Baldus 36 games 26 starts
71 Myron Cunningham
LG 72 Jordan Detweiler 20 games 4 career starts -
73 Kyle Sanft 1 game
C 66 Jacob Judd 30 games 26 starts
63 Chris Zobrist 1 game
RG 76 Drew Wagner 22 games 11 starts
70 Lucas Holder 29 games 15 starts (27/15 at Liberty)
RT 77 James Torgerson 37 games 32 starts
64 Thomas Kirsch 19 games
QB 18 Sean McGuire 23 games 17 starts
8 Connor Sampson 1 game
RB 36 Max Norris 4 games 1 start
5 Steve McShane 24 games 12 starts
TE 87 Cal Breedlove 16 games (1 at NIU) 7 starts
83 Adam Conrady 21 games 6 starts
WR 17 Jaelon Acklin 34 games 9 starts
1 Jarid Brown 14 games (12 at Ohio)
WR 10 Brandon Gaston 2 games
86 Izaiah Fuller 17 games (15 at EMU)
WR 2 Isaiah LeSure. 23 games 4 starts
15 Cameron Clemons 1 games

DEFENSE
DE 99 Khalen Saunders 26 games 13 starts
91 Kyle Williams 2 games
NG 95 Mick Nelson. 38 games 9 starts
56 Nathan Oquendo 4 games
DE 51 Colin Olson 21 games 3 starts
-or- 94 Grant Kasal 13 games 1 start
LB 58 Riggs Baxter 25 games 16 starts
47 Michael Bishoff 19 games
LB 44 Brett Taylor 38 games 29 starts
59 Tom Rehfeld 13 games
LB 39 Quentin Moon 26 games 12 starts
35 Adam Brott 34 games 16 starts
LB 50 Pete Swenson 26 games 14 starts
97 Eryk Preston 4 games
CB 16 Tyrin Holloway 38 games 24 starts (36/22 at Liberty)
23 Josh Smith 35 games
FS 5 Aaron Diggs. 23 games 13 starts
11 Eric Carrera. 12 games 5 starts
SS 38 David Griffith 38 games 28 starts
3 Tim Smith Ill. 24 games 13 starts
CB 6 Xavier Rowe 26 games 22 starts
24 Mike Viti 13 games 2 starts


FS30 Justin Fitzpatrick 22 games 7 starts
SS1 Brandon Mayes 41 games 24 starts (40/24 at NIU)
CB 29 Leon Thornton 22 games (20 at Indiana)
LB 27 Tre Hendon 2 games 1 start
WR 12 Darron Wheeler 11 games 5 starts at corner
TE 81 Tony Harper 20 games 3 starts (7 at Pitt)
TE 45 Tyler Slamans 13 games 5 starts

WIU comes out of bye ready for Coastal Carolina.

From today's McDonough County Voice:
http://www.mcdonoughvoice.com/sports/20 ... l-carolina

Predictions from the original post:
Massey - 31-28, WIU Victory
Compughterratings.com - 31-30, CCU win
5Dimes Odds - WIU -5.5, Over/Under 57
Sagarin (calculation, doesn't round) - 30.39 to 30.15, CCU win
In general, it's pretty much even odds or with us slightly favored.

Some other predictions out there:
BleacherReport has us 27 to 20
Stats has us picked
ESPN's Football Power Index is giving CU 61.4% chance of winning
FoxSports giving CCU 85.1% (uses 501 simulations......of what?)
CollegeFootballNews was taking CCU 17 to 10

I said earlier WIU by 2 scores (meant TD's), so 31 - 17. Looks a little crazier writing it down, but sticking with it.

What's everyone else thinking?

letsgonecks wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:22 pm FoxSports giving CCU 85.1% (uses 501 simulations......of what?)

Of octopus sports picks...

26 out 34 Pigskin Parlay players who have posted thus far are going with the Leathernecks. Average margin of victory is 6.

But we are a bit of a "homer" bunch.

I don't know anything for sure, but this sure sounds promising:

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That could make things really interesting!!! Glad to hear he's good to go!!!

WGEM: On the Sidelines: WIU closes road swing at Coastal Carolina
http://www.wgem.com/story/36426271/2017 ... l-carolina

Leathernecks take on Coastal Carolina and the option.

From the McDonough County Voice:
http://www.mcdonoughvoice.com/sports/20 ... and-option