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Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:09 am
by sealhall74
ibleedpurpleandgold wrote:
ST_Lawson wrote:Also looks like David Milke will be retained as the Director of Football Operations. Here's his bio from last year as a reminder: http://goleathernecks.com/coaches.aspx? ... h=football
Him and Enos were both linked in a recent tweet going around that lists all the coaches twitter handles.
yes that was the tweet that i saw i didn't see Milke name in the post when i originally saw it but saw it later.
I wonder if some HCs give "Twitter Clearinghouse" responsibilities to a certain member of their staff. A DFO would be the logical choice. Their job is to make sure that a consistent and positive flow of information is always flowing through the twitter handles of the staff. Or would a coach always trust his assistants to do their own tweeting and risk that occasional "muff"?

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:32 am
by beauspencer
To my knowledge the head coaches or DFO do not micromanage the individual Twitter accounts. On occasion, the SID may have to step in to remind coaches what they can/can't tweet. While I was working in the Dept we actually had a department wide meeting on social media. Some of the rules the NCAA has (or had) were pretty ridiculous.

For example, at that time, I could not interact with any potential student athletes or their direct family on Twitter, etc. Sounds reasonable, BUT a PSA is ANYONE of high school age, whether or not they even play sports.

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:17 am
by ST_Lawson
beauspencer wrote:To my knowledge the head coaches or DFO do not micromanage the individual Twitter accounts. On occasion, the SID may have to step in to remind coaches what they can/can't tweet. While I was working in the Dept we actually had a department wide meeting on social media. Some of the rules the NCAA has (or had) were pretty ridiculous.

For example, at that time, I could not interact with any potential student athletes or their direct family on Twitter, etc. Sounds reasonable, BUT a PSA is ANYONE of high school age, whether or not they even play sports.
Do you know what the rule says about fans/boosters? I know that quite often you see fans tweeting at prospective players...I think that's allowed, as long as the booster doesn't offer to do or buy anything for the player while they're a recruit (or even while they're a player), but I don't know for sure. If there is a rule against it, it's not really well enforced (or the NCAA just kinda looks the other way most of the time).

I can definitely see why they restrict social media interactions. Today, it's essentially the equivalent of calling a recruit on the phone, but is harder to track...both that the communication actually happened, and what was said.

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:32 am
by beauspencer
Boosters can not interact on social media with recruits.

This is the whole gray area and what drew my concern regarding social media interaction. I first questioned it after tweeting (about 80's hair metal) a recruit's dad. At the time I was tweeting a lot about various subjects. How am I to know who is or who isn't the father of a potential student athlete, especially when I'm tweeting about music. Extreme gray area.

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:50 am
by sealhall74
The NCAA broadly defines a "booster" as an individual, agency, entity or organization who is known by an institution to: Have participated in or been a member of an agency that promotes the institution's intercollegiate athletics program.

With that definition, I guess we could all drop our memberships in the Leatherneck Club and be good to go. Or would just being an alumnus put you in hot water? LOL

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:32 am
by Leatherneck57
Potential D-Line coach in today to meet with Coach Fisher...

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:40 pm
by ST_Lawson
beauspencer wrote:Boosters can not interact on social media with recruits.

This is the whole gray area and what drew my concern regarding social media interaction. I first questioned it after tweeting (about 80's hair metal) a recruit's dad. At the time I was tweeting a lot about various subjects. How am I to know who is or who isn't the father of a potential student athlete, especially when I'm tweeting about music. Extreme gray area.
Yea, it's kinda a fine line with that stuff. Does just mentioning them in a tweet constitute "contact"....does it have to be a direct message?
For example, a bit ago I tweeted something that included both Lance Lenoir and his brother Landon (who is a potential recruit, we've offered, he's verbally committed to SIU), but it wasn't really directed at him...just mentioning him. I'm an alumni, and obviously admin of this site. I haven't joined the Leatherneck Club (yet...I do plan to this next summer when the new fiscal year starts), but I do work for the university (but not in or relating to the athletics department).

Lance and Landon both "liked" and retweeted my post....so am I in trouble? I think that at this point, the NCAA is probably mostly looking the other way on twitter posts...I see a ton of people from larger schools sending tweets to potential recruits (many that are WAY more direct than mine are...essentially "come here, we're awesome"), and haven't heard of anyone being fined or penalized for people doing that.

Here was my "offending" tweet:

[tweet]688471269285597184[/tweet]

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:56 pm
by LeatherCy
Elson would have been on the WKU staff when they defeated WIU and an ugly brawl broke out on the field in the '02 playoffs. WKU player was using his helmet as a weapon. This was precipitated by Jack Harbaugh before the game ever started. WIU was on the field for pre game stretching. Instead of WKU entering the field through the proper gate Harbaugh instructed his team to enter where WIU entered and ran right through the WIU team. The same guy that was swinging the helmet after the game was caring a red handled sledge hammer leading WKU thorough the WIU staff. Don Martindale who was the WKU DC had been the DC at WIU for one year the previous year before Coach P fired him. His defense was not very good. With Wink starting it the WKU and WIU Asst Coaches started pushing and shoving on the steps of the press box when the ugly fight broke out on the field. From that point on I have hated Jack and Jim Harbaugh and their geek son-in-law, brother-in-law, Crean ever since. I think I could stand the one that coaches the Ravens. John?

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:47 pm
by Marine4life
Leatherneck57 wrote:Potential D-Line coach in today to meet with Coach Fisher...

I met this gentlemen today.. great candidate from Texas A & M. Currently a GA for defensive line, and recruits heavily in Nashville/Atlanta area.

Re: Assistant Coaches???

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:39 am
by ibleedpurpleandgold
I wonder if Fisher will speak @ the basketball game today?