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Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:20 pm
by brewer2125
Was the WIU baseball record book changed? Thumbing through the current program/recordbook and thought some names were missing. Checked an older editon and sure enough, the recordbook changed. Here is one example...

CURRENT RECORDBOOK:

SINGLE SEASON EARNED RUN AVERAGE (1IP P/GP)
1. 0.41 Max Louderman (44 IP).............. 1952
2. 1.23 Aaron Michel (65.2).................... 2013
3. 1.29 Rick Reuschel (75.2).................. 1969
4. 1.57 Dick Howard (80)........................ 1965
5. 1.65 Bill Nafziger (49.1)...................... 1969
6. 1.74 Mickey Madison (51.2)................ 1959
7. 1.80 Frank Hutt (45)............................ 1955
8. 1.82 Paul Reuschel (94)..................... 1968
9. 1.86 Ed Gvazdinskas (63).................. 1971
10. 1.91 Mel Casper (61.1)....................... 1964

OLDER RECORDBOOK:

Single Season Earned Run Average
1. 1.26 Stan Scott ...................... 1984
2. 1.29 Rick Reuschel ................. 1969
3. 1.35 Rich Hodyl ...................... 1984
4. 1.57 Dick Howard ................... 1965
5. 1.61 John Turner ..................... 1976
6. 1.62 Don Brodt ....................... 1974
7. 1.65 Bill Nafziger .................... 1969
8. 1.89 Ed Gvazdinskas ............... 1973
9. 1.94 Mel Casper ..................... 1964
10. 1.97 Tony O’Connor ................. 1988

So Stan Scott was in the #1 spot in the older recordbook, and should be #2 in the new recordbook, but is missing entirely. But Rick Reuschel stayed on both lists. Same with some of the other names on this list. Some deleted, some not. Not sure what happened. First time I have ever seen a recordbook eliminating names. Usually people get knocked off the list by others having a better stat. But no changes on the career list for the same stat.

CURRENT RECORDBOOK

CAREER EARNED RUN AVERAGE
1. 1.94 Rick Reuschel .................. 1969-70
2. 2.00 Todd Nelson...................... 2007-08
3. 2.06 Quinn Leath .................... 2006-07
4. 2.19 Jim Johnson .................... 1963-66
5. 2.58 Ed Gvazdinskas ............... 1971-74
6. 2.67 Kurt Beenk ....................... 1984-85
7. 2.72 Tim Major ......................... 1977-80
8. 2.83 Kent Murphy .................... 1982-85
9. 2.91 Ron Fiala ......................... 1975-78
10. 3.09 Mel Casper ...................... 1963-66

OLDER RECORDBOOK

Career Earned Run Average
1. 1.94 Rick Reuschel ...............1969-70
2. 2.00 Todd Nelson............ 2007-present
3. 2.06 Quinn Leath ............. 2006-2007
4. 2.19 Jim Johnson ..................1963-66
5. 2.58 Ed Gvazdinskas .............1971-74
6. 2.67 Kurt Beenk ...................1984-85
7. 2.72 Tim Major .....................1977-80
8. 2.83 Kent Murphy .................1982-85
9. 2.91 Ron Fiala ......................1975-78
10. 3.09 Mel Casper ....................1963-66

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:19 pm
by leatherneckcountry
the only thing that i can think of would be that they changed the qualification for the list.

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 1:28 am
by brewer2125
Could be. Not sure what would have prompted something like that because most of the names are from years back - not like many recent vintage names were added. So who knows...

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:50 am
by leatherface
Just call the school and find out! :D

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:30 pm
by Necks2003
I played for several years as well. Can't judge baseball by record alone. We just don't have the facilities to square off against teams from the south for the first 20 games of the season. Conference play is all that truly matters. Just like basketball. While we would all like to win more games, the coach is not the issue. Having better weather in the winter and spring would help more than anything to get some live hitting outdoors.

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:09 am
by Tere North
leatherneckcountry wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:19 pm the only thing that i can think of would be that they changed the qualification for the list.
Is it possible that how ERA is calculated was different in the 60s than later?

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:53 am
by sealhall74
Necks2003 wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:30 pm I played for several years as well. Can't judge baseball by record alone. We just don't have the facilities to square off against teams from the south for the first 20 games of the season. Conference play is all that truly matters. Just like basketball. While we would all like to win more games, the coach is not the issue. Having better weather in the winter and spring would help more than anything to get some live hitting outdoors.
You can do a lot indoors with HitTrax. Do we have one of these?

https://www.sporttechie.com/hittrax-mak ... cs-center/

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:03 pm
by brewer2125
Necks2003 wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:30 pm I played for several years as well. Can't judge baseball by record alone. We just don't have the facilities to square off against teams from the south for the first 20 games of the season. Conference play is all that truly matters. Just like basketball. While we would all like to win more games, the coach is not the issue. Having better weather in the winter and spring would help more than anything to get some live hitting outdoors.
So having a .300 winning percentage for 5 or 6 years in a row is accceptable? Respectfully, you can't be serious. As a former player, you are proud of this program the way it has been performing over the past 5-plus years? Apparently Dick Pawlow and Stan didn't have any problem winning game with the Macomb weather or with the facilities they had (and both coaches scheduled early games against top ranked teams)... In my opinion, also as a former player who is repeatedly asked to provide financial support to the program, this coach, while maybe a really nice guy, has been given plenty of opportunities - but he's earned a pink slip, because Division I athletic programs are about winning. Time to bring in new blood to try to bring it back to what it once was because it will never get there under this guy's leadership.

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:05 pm
by brewer2125
Tere North wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:09 am
leatherneckcountry wrote: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:19 pm the only thing that i can think of would be that they changed the qualification for the list.
Is it possible that how ERA is calculated was different in the 60s than later?
I don't think so. My guess is at some point someone in the AD's office might have decided to up the minimum number of appearances to get on the list...

Re: Leatherneck Baseball

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:47 am
by leatherface
Again, email or call the school for an answer! I don't believe folks on a message board can answer this concern, so, call or email the SID and find out. :?