2022 Roster Changes

meganeck
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Mheller wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2022 7:06 pm
letsgonecks wrote:
Some WR updates: Jaylen Reed has been moved to wide receiver. Cade Eddington is no longer in the team.


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Thanks for the updates.  Keep them coming.
Another update, Cade Eddington rejoined the team! Image


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Hey thats good to hear..thanks for lettin gus know
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Leatherneck57 wrote:
huskie wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:47 am Well said Leatherneck57, all of those kids can easily be replaced. 

 
I also heard from a current player that practice yesterday was amazing (his exact words)!  He said the players have a great feeling about this staff and their leadership!
To pick up on Leatherneck57, I spoke with my player yesterday and he also said practice went very, very well. According to him, his teammates executed flawlessly and motivation was high. He was excited and he feels everyone else was too. In addition (and perhaps more importantly) the coaching staff was hands on and working with the players on specifics. This is unusual in college football. Coach Hen directed my son personally. Head coaches (in general) don’t do this. And this is a bigger deal than you might think. This indicates to me that Hendrickson is a true players coach and that is huge for the program. Most college teams run the same plays, use the same training methods and have to adhere to the same rules. So why do some teams win and others lose? Yes, talent matters (a lot) but it’s more than that. St. Pete’s beat Kentucky not because they had more talent, but because they had more heart. And I would suggest St. Pete’s had a better (players) coach leading them. I have a really good feeling about the direction of Western Football with Coach Hendrickson in charge.


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Leatherneck57 wrote:When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Just a quick follow up on the portal. Things changed last year when it was announced that players didn’t have to sit out a year. This is a major factor in why so many players left. Add into that a coaching change. I am not suggesting it’s right, but this is a big part of why. And it’s OK. If players don’t want to be there, let them go. I don’t know where the transfers will end up (although Elliot is pulling a few to Ball State) but none of them are going to Alabama or Georgia. The portal should have a warning label saying ‘buyer beware’. Rarely does a transfer end up at a bigger, better school. The portal just doesn’t work that way most of the time. The players at Western who are there now want to be there. That’s the start of creating unit cohesion and building a foundation of success. Western Illinois has a dynamic new players coach who built a successful program with much less resources at a private college with 600 students. Weeding out players who don’t want to buy in is part of creating that culture. Don’t worry about the players who left, focus on the majority that stayed and a great recruiting class coming in. That’s the future. And I think it’s pretty bright.


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Leatherneck57
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Mheller wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:01 am
Leatherneck57 wrote:When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
Just a quick follow up on the portal. Things changed last year when it was announced that players didn’t have to sit out a year. This is a major factor in why so many players left. Add into that a coaching change. I am not suggesting it’s right, but this is a big part of why. And it’s OK. If players don’t want to be there, let them go. I don’t know where the transfers will end up (although Elliot is pulling a few to Ball State) but none of them are going to Alabama or Georgia. The portal should have a warning label saying ‘buyer beware’. Rarely does a transfer end up at a bigger, better school. The portal just doesn’t work that way most of the time. The players at Western who are there now want to be there. That’s the start of creating unit cohesion and building a foundation of success. Western Illinois has a dynamic new players coach who built a successful program with much less resources at a private college with 600 students. Weeding out players who don’t want to buy in is part of creating that culture. Don’t worry about the players who left, focus on the majority that stayed and a great recruiting class coming in. That’s the future. And I think it’s pretty bright.


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Totally agree!  Look forward to meeting you Football Alumni Weekend!
 
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Leatherneck57 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 am When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

LB’s should average 8-10 tackles a game (if they’re doing their job) and be over 100 tackles for the season.  None of these kids came close which means they were either out of position and or missed a bunch of tackles.  I witnessed the latter.

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
You have every right to be upset/disappointed about players entering the portal, but there’s absolutely no need to degrade their character and performance. It just makes you classless. All of these players who have entered the portal were committed to a team with a different staff and are searching for a new/better opportunity, which is quite normal when there’s a coaching change. On top of it, it’s hard to be somewhere with an AD that didn’t care to do her job, a school President that doesn’t even support athletics, and no money. But you calling them a “waste of a scholarship” and “not leaders” and “easily replaceable” is so wrong. Shame on you. 
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mac1309 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:28 am
Leatherneck57 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 am When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

LB’s should average 8-10 tackles a game (if they’re doing their job) and be over 100 tackles for the season.  None of these kids came close which means they were either out of position and or missed a bunch of tackles.  I witnessed the latter.

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
You have every right to be upset/disappointed about players entering the portal, but there’s absolutely no need to degrade their character and performance. It just makes you classless. All of these players who have entered the portal were committed to a team with a different staff and are searching for a new/better opportunity, which is quite normal when there’s a coaching change. On top of it, it’s hard to be somewhere with an AD that didn’t care to do her job, a school President that doesn’t even support athletics, and no money. But you calling them a “waste of a scholarship” and “not leaders” and “easily replaceable” is so wrong. Shame on you. 

 
I guess the part I don't get is that the "team with a different staff" and are "searching for a new/better opportunity". The previous staff didn't set the world on fire, so I don't see why a new perspective couldn't be a new/better opportunity - especially for the kids who didn't graduate. I get it if they graduated and want to pursue an advanced degree that WIU isn't that involved with, but otherwise the academics (to the best of my knowledge) didn't change.
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mac1309 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:28 am
Leatherneck57 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 am When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

LB’s should average 8-10 tackles a game (if they’re doing their job) and be over 100 tackles for the season.  None of these kids came close which means they were either out of position and or missed a bunch of tackles.  I witnessed the latter.

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
You have every right to be upset/disappointed about players entering the portal, but there’s absolutely no need to degrade their character and performance. It just makes you classless. All of these players who have entered the portal were committed to a team with a different staff and are searching for a new/better opportunity, which is quite normal when there’s a coaching change. On top of it, it’s hard to be somewhere with an AD that didn’t care to do her job, a school President that doesn’t even support athletics, and no money. But you calling them a “waste of a scholarship” and “not leaders” and “easily replaceable” is so wrong. Shame on you. 

 
I’m sorry but not once do I mention “waste of a scholarship” and I can assure you everyone and anyone is replaceable.  I can be replaced at work but I do the necessary things not to allow that to happen.

When Lance Lenoir graduated everyone was like how will we replace him?  No one had ever heard of Jaylon Acklin…well everyone knows that story.  He blew an All American’s numbers away for a record setting season!

What I’m saying is not degrading their performance or their character.  Just showing that numbers can be improved upon and the next players that come in have a chance to do that.  I analyze numbers all day and I look at things a lot different than most. 

Our new President is behind athletics and is now leading a push to upgrade facilities starting with a north end zone project.  He understands the importance.  You speak the truth about the former AD but that will soon be changing and you’ll see a big turnaround in that department.  The plans are going to advance athletics in a major way…believe me!

At the end of the day what’s done is done and I’m excited for our current and future Leathernecks!  We have the right leadership in place!

Neck for Life!


 
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Leatherneck57 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:49 pm
mac1309 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:28 am
Leatherneck57 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 am When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

LB’s should average 8-10 tackles a game (if they’re doing their job) and be over 100 tackles for the season.  None of these kids came close which means they were either out of position and or missed a bunch of tackles.  I witnessed the latter.

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



 
You have every right to be upset/disappointed about players entering the portal, but there’s absolutely no need to degrade their character and performance. It just makes you classless. All of these players who have entered the portal were committed to a team with a different staff and are searching for a new/better opportunity, which is quite normal when there’s a coaching change. On top of it, it’s hard to be somewhere with an AD that didn’t care to do her job, a school President that doesn’t even support athletics, and no money. But you calling them a “waste of a scholarship” and “not leaders” and “easily replaceable” is so wrong. Shame on you. 


 
I’m sorry but not once do I mention “waste of a scholarship” and I can assure you everyone and anyone is replaceable.  I can be replaced at work but I do the necessary things not to allow that to happen.

When Lance Lenoir graduated everyone was like how will we replace him?  No one had ever heard of Jaylon Acklin…well everyone knows that story.  He blew an All American’s numbers away for a record setting season!

What I’m saying is not degrading their performance or their character.  Just showing that numbers can be improved upon and the next players that come in have a chance to do that.  I analyze numbers all day and I look at things a lot different than most. 

Our new President is behind athletics and is now leading a push to upgrade facilities starting with a north end zone project.  He understands the importance.  You speak the truth about the former AD but that will soon be changing and you’ll see a big turnaround in that department.  The plans are going to advance athletics in a major way…believe me!

At the end of the day what’s done is done and I’m excited for our current and future Leathernecks!  We have the right leadership in place!

Neck for Life!


 

 
You called Daniel Carson a waste of a scholarship then must’ve edited it out. That’s great the president has decided to now support athletics, but are these not the same projects that have been at a standstill for 6+ years? Either way, my original point was how disrespectful it was for you to degrade and talk down on players just because you’re angry.
 
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Leatherneck57
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I spoke with Several coaches today we have a lot of great offers out there and an extensive list of players they are recruiting.  Some will be on campus soon.  
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Leatherneck57 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:49 pm
mac1309 wrote: Mon Mar 28, 2022 11:28 am
Leatherneck57 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 am When the 9-10 guys entered the portal I was upset and still am to some degree.  They quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here.  My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.  All of these kinds can easily be replaced when looking at the stats.

For Instance…we’ve had a lot of really good LB’s over the years and we’re used to seeing them in leadership roles.  None of the three LB’s that entered the portal can be looked at as leaders.  We are used to seeing kids like Brett Taylor, Quentin Moon, Kyle Glazier, Lee Russell, Jason Williams, Ed Hartwell, James Milton and so many more!  Those kids made a difference to their teammates!

I’m most disappointed in the two O lineman Malkow and Muetterties.  Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader.  Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead.  Muetterties was all in until he went home for Spring Break. 

I will be sharing individual stats of players we thought were the future of our program.  At the end of the day our two safety’s were the most productive guys on the roster with a combined 239 tackles.  When your safety’s are leading the team in tackles it’s not a good thing and only mean the guys up front aren’t doing their job.  The proof is in the stats!

LB’s should average 8-10 tackles a game (if they’re doing their job) and be over 100 tackles for the season.  None of these kids came close which means they were either out of position and or missed a bunch of tackles.  I witnessed the latter.

As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten.  They left our numbers a little thin in areas but soon that will change with the incoming class and other recruits.  Everyone is replaceable!

I am hearing from kids on the team that are fired up and moving on.  They are ready to work, get better and WIN games and that’s all that matters now! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




 
You have every right to be upset/disappointed about players entering the portal, but there’s absolutely no need to degrade their character and performance. It just makes you classless. All of these players who have entered the portal were committed to a team with a different staff and are searching for a new/better opportunity, which is quite normal when there’s a coaching change. On top of it, it’s hard to be somewhere with an AD that didn’t care to do her job, a school President that doesn’t even support athletics, and no money. But you calling them a “waste of a scholarship” and “not leaders” and “easily replaceable” is so wrong. Shame on you. 



 
I’m sorry but not once do I mention “waste of a scholarship” and I can assure you everyone and anyone is replaceable.  I can be replaced at work but I do the necessary things not to allow that to happen.

When Lance Lenoir graduated everyone was like how will we replace him?  No one had ever heard of Jaylon Acklin…well everyone knows that story.  He blew an All American’s numbers away for a record setting season!

What I’m saying is not degrading their performance or their character.  Just showing that numbers can be improved upon and the next players that come in have a chance to do that.  I analyze numbers all day and I look at things a lot different than most. 

Our new President is behind athletics and is now leading a push to upgrade facilities starting with a north end zone project.  He understands the importance.  You speak the truth about the former AD but that will soon be changing and you’ll see a big turnaround in that department.  The plans are going to advance athletics in a major way…believe me!

At the end of the day what’s done is done and I’m excited for our current and future Leathernecks!  We have the right leadership in place!

Neck for Life!


 
Before I begin, let me preface this with: I myself am a WIU Athlete alum. I did not play football, I played another sport; but I had and still have many close ties to the WIU football team including players (and even some coaches prior to this spring). Not only did I play at and graduate from WIU, I was actually a transfer (to WIU) myself and spent nearly my entire career there...(and don’t crucify me for my decision as you are for these other kids).
So, not that I owe it to you to prove myself and that I have a vast knowledge of these things, but I've literally been there and done it within the past few years- I've been an athlete at WIU, been a transfer and understand that whole process, been inside and part of that athletic dept and also been the athlete behind closed doors that saw 99% of the things you will never see or hear about. So in the most humble way- if anyone here is this up to date of the ins-and-outs of college athletics (especially WIU athletics) and transferring and has actually LIVED it, I think I am worthy of joining that group. 

Western was one of the best things to happened to me and I will always call Macomb home. But... there is a lot of work that needs to be done in the athletic department and I think we all agree with that. I think the AD change was a move in the right direction, as you said. Love or hate the previous football coaching staff, that change NEEDED to happen. A division 1 school will not sustain if their primary income flow sport is not producing, which I know you agree with as well.Regardless of what this new coach is or isn't at this point, WHENEVER there is a change in coaching, its inevitable that players will leave.

So I guess I'm just a little confused as to why so many were so blind sided by this change, especially when this was a new outside coaching staff vs change of coaching within the program which is what Elliott was.
I mean truthfully, I'm actually very confused about why everyone else didn't see this coming considering the many factors that go into it. 

First, let's not forget a good majority of these players you are so upset about leaving have had the following records their ENTIRE COLLEGIATE CAREER: 2018: 5-6 (most RS this season), 2019: 1-11, 2020: 1-5, 2021: 2-9
TOTAL CAREER RECORD (not including RS year because they couldn't play): 4-25 .................4-25 guys, I cannot stress this enough.
There is only so much these players can do, and they stuck with it for 4 years and it wasn't ever getting any better. This alone is a good enough reason for anyone to leave quite honestly.

Secondly, they committed to a different coaching staff; not this one. I realize that this reason alone is not a good excuse to leave, but like I said, there are quite a few factors that play in here and having a whole new coaching staff is actually huge part (comparable to another company buying out the one you work at and completely changing everything you've known for the past 4 years). Although, I do know that some were already considering transferring under Elliott considering the above records and the way the program was being ran. So, coming off such a terrible last 3-4 years, why risk a possible continuation of these outcomes knowing the new staff is coming in to re-build and the next few years will probably be a little shaky until all the kinks are worked out? That is some of these guys' whole college career even with the extra covid year. Can't blame them for looking elsewhere. 

Third, as I said above, you don’t know what happens behind closed doors, and you never will. You think you would've learned this after a lot of boosters and program supporters' thoughts and attitudes regarding the previous coaching staff changed after those coaches had been let go of at the end of last season. It is simply unfair for you to speculate on what you think the reasoning behind these players' exit is. And regardless, it's none of your business anyways. 

Fourth, I brought up myself being a transfer not to make it about myself, but because I've been in these players shoes and I understand what it's like. Everyones first reaction is acting as if the player leaving is off to find a bigger and better school with a bigger following and think they're better than the original program, which isn't always true. I transferred to WIU from a much bigger D1 with a budget that WIU couldn't hold a dime to. I started every single game as a freshman. I loved that school and my teammates. But the coach made life very difficult our team and I wanted to go in a different direction with my academics. I didn't leave out of selfishness, or to find better, or because I wasn't playing. I left because I was extremely unhappy, it was taking a lot out of me, and I also wanted to fulfill my academic goals. So, from the outside looking in, one could judge me as an instant gratification type, or someone who couldn't handle it. But only those close to me knew exactly what the situation was and how miserable I was and how I didn't want to spend my one college career that way. SAME EXACT THING goes for these players, you will never understand from the outside looking in. 

Leatherneck57, I can sense how upset you are about this issue. Since you played at WIU, I completely get why you are so passionate about this, but please just remember that times and athletics have changed a lot since then. I do agree that some kids want instant gratification and never fully commit to a program, but these guys you're talking so negatively about have poured their blood, sweat, and tears into this program for 4 YEARS now. Their parents have done so much for this program. This clearly isn't a lack of commitment as you implied when you said, "they quit on their teammates, the new coaches and this university after they chose to come here. My attitude is quickly changing since reviewing their output as players.".
Let me ask you- Would you blame a coach for leaving after 4 years to find something that would suit him better and is more geared towards his future goals or family? I'd hope not. What about taking a new job after being at a job for 4 years with no success and are impeding on your goals? It's so easy to judge athletes nowadays, but no one ever wants to put it into perspective for themselves.

Lastly, for you to say you're "not degrading their performance or their character" after your previous post says "Malkow was a Captain and was “supposed” to be a leader. Guess we ended up putting to much faith in his ability to lead." and then "As soon as someone makes a tackle or catches a TD pass these kids will be forgotten" implies that you think they lack character and performance. But in my honest opinion, if you think they lack character because of a college/athletic career life decision that was heavily weighed says A LOT more about YOUR character than it EVER will about theirs.
You’re free to have your own opinions and disagree with their choice, but at the end of the day it’s not your life. You’re not in their shoes. You have NO IDEA what goes on behind closed doors (regardless if you’re a parent, booster, long time football alum, etc.), just as people didn't know the details of what was happening behind closed doors for the past 3 years. You have literally not a single ounce of knowledge about their decisions. The LEAST you could do is show some respect, and uphold their name the same way you did when they wore purple and yellow. Colors and team names might change, but these boys’ characters and performance have not. 

I know you won't think so, but your negativity and passive-agressive comments about WIU players and their choices all over social media platforms is not a good look for WIU's program and is talked about amongst these athletes. Your direct/personal comments towards or about athletes who have chosen to transfer also aren't a great look considering how back-handed they are. The comments from you that I just quoted above were SO clearly intended to be a jab at these players which is extremely immature and demeaning of you. Whether you believe all this to be true or not doesn’t really matter, because I, and many others, have seen and heard for myself. Contrary to popular belief, athletes are more than just people that a school owns and are used at the programs disposal... these are real people, real humans, who have a life outside of sports, and a future with goals. Maybe remind yourself of that before you choose to speak so negatively about one next time. 

As a WIU Athlete Alum, It’s truly sad to see such big “fans” and “boosters” talk so poorly about their players/previous players.
There clearly needs to be a huge culture change in this department/program... and all the way down to the fans too it seems like.
For the sake of the university and athletic dept, I hope it happens sooner rather than later. It's not hard to be kind human. 
 
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