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Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 10:52 am
by sealhall74
LocalYokelFan wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 10:38 am
Neckfansince71 wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 10:13 am What did Seth have to say? jc
Read the TSPR article from above. Throw on top of that he's bailing, it can't be good.
I am not sure you make that statement unless you know you are bailing. Interestingly, his counterpart over at EIU is predicting a 20% increase in freshman enrollment in the fall. Maybe Seth saw that their gain is essentially our loss. Things are so screwed up in the whole state. Just yesterday, I became aware that the Mitsubishi plant in Normal closed a couple of years back. That was a shocker for me.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 11:03 am
by wiu712
LocalYokelFan wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 9:02 amBased on Miner's comments this week, I'm guessing next year's enrollment numbers are going to be real bad.
An owner of some student-rentals told me last week that the Fall Freshman class could be in the 500 range. He is in frequent contact with the Admissions office. He has had to lower the rent just to get people into his units.

Western has a large senior class graduating this week. That will be replaced by a much smaller incoming freshman class. That will drive down the overall enrollment number.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 12:58 pm
by wiu712
sealhall74 wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 10:52 amJust yesterday, I became aware that the Mitsubishi plant in Normal closed a couple of years back.
Mitsubishi was in Normal 1988-2016.

Rivian Automotive took over the property in 2017.

Rivian quietly brings former Mitsubishi plant back to life.
http://www.pjstar.com/news/20170805/riv ... ck-to-life

Rivian truck coming in 2020; SUV to follow.
http://www.pantagraph.com/business/loca ... 2a7c3.html

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 1:25 pm
by Neckerchief
Neckfansince71 wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 10:37 am Its time for the faculty contract to get settled one way or another so WIU can get moving again. WIU can't keep shooting its self in the foot if it wants to successfully begin the process of healing and recovery! The ill advised comments from faculty who created "concern" with their graduation comments really created a PR problem for every office trying to "right" the ship! Gotta get this solved!!
The greedy and childish faculty (and their lying leader) have definitely shot WIU in the foot. Voting on a strike during prime recruiting season shows their narcissism. If EIU's enrollment indeed goes up while WIU's falls, we can put the blame squarely on the backs of our petulant faculty.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 1:52 pm
by sealhall74
Illinois is completely surrounded by "Right to Work" states. Let that sink in for more than a moment.

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Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Sun May 06, 2018 3:48 pm
by Tere North
Neckerchief wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 1:25 pm
Neckfansince71 wrote: Sun May 06, 2018 10:37 am Its time for the faculty contract to get settled one way or another so WIU can get moving again. WIU can't keep shooting its self in the foot if it wants to successfully begin the process of healing and recovery! The ill advised comments from faculty who created "concern" with their graduation comments really created a PR problem for every office trying to "right" the ship! Gotta get this solved!!
The greedy and childish faculty (and their lying leader) have definitely shot WIU in the foot. Voting on a strike during prime recruiting season shows their narcissism. If EIU's enrollment indeed goes up while WIU's falls, we can put the blame squarely on the backs of our petulant faculty.
Eastern's jumped last Fall, too. Did we do anything to learn what they did?? Not likely. Plus, EIU's faculty almost immediately agreed to be part of the solution 3 years ago, rather than Western's who flatly stated it wasn't their concern and only the larger masses forced the WIU UPI leader to capitulate.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 9:56 am
by wiu712
"Custody" of the SIU Medicine School could shift from Carbondale to Edwardsville.

SIU system faces potential split as campuses clamor for funds.
From today's St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/educ ... eab1e.html

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 10:28 am
by Tere North
wiu712 wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 9:56 am "Custody" of the SIU Medicine School could shift from Carbondale to Edwardsville.

SIU system faces potential split as campuses clamor for funds.
From today's St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/educ ... eab1e.html
The medical school is in Springfield. Why not attach it to UIS?

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 12:24 pm
by wiu712
Tere North wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 10:28 amThe medical school is in Springfield. Why not attach it to UIS?
Having the Med School would fall outside of UIS' Mission.

The Med School is a 4-year program. The first year is spent in Carbondale. The last three years are in Springfield.

Edwardsville already has a lot of health-related programs while UIS does not.

Re: Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff

Posted: Mon May 07, 2018 1:14 pm
by Tere North
wiu712 wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 12:24 pm
Tere North wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 10:28 amThe medical school is in Springfield. Why not attach it to UIS?
Having the Med School would fall outside of UIS' Mission.

The Med School is a 4-year program. The first year is spent in Carbondale. The last three years are in Springfield.

Edwardsville already has a lot of health-related programs while UIS does not.
Thanks for the clarification!