Spring 2021 - Week 5 - at Illinois State
- sealhall74
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Onside kick coach now. Lets see how big your balls are.
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I get what you're saying, but to me the key is the players. Are they willing to keep grinding for this type of result? If so, maybe wait until after fall. If not, maybe we need to think about keeping the kids that can play and losing the coaches that are not cutting the mustard (as my father would have said).ST_Lawson wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:29 pmHere's the problem...if we let the coaching staff go after this spring season, then we're looking at hiring a HC in the late spring/early summer, which is not really the ideal time to be looking for a coach in terms of the talent pool out there looking for jobs. Then, you have the whole season schedule being thrown off in terms of recruiting, summer practices and stuff.
The question is, is it better to:
1. stick with the current staff until the end of the fall season, then get someone hired during the usual timeframe when coaches are moving around to different jobs
or
2. go ahead and try to hire someone new after this spring season, hope you can find a good candidate (and that they can hire a decent staff), and treat this fall as a "lost season"
I don't know what the right answer is. I also feel badly for the players. I'm sure a lot of them are working hard, trying their hardest to make something happen, but right now we're just being outmatched/outcoached.
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Saw a post on the Yote board today. Said best player on the team is the punter. Might be true for us as well.
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Oh I agree. We should keep him for the fall season and then move on from him after it. However, I’m just annoyed with how he took over a team that went into the FCS playoffs and we haven’t been over .500 since Charlie Fischer.ST_Lawson wrote:Here's the problem...if we let the coaching staff go after this spring season, then we're looking at hiring a HC in the late spring/early summer, which is not really the ideal time to be looking for a coach in terms of the talent pool out there looking for jobs. Then, you have the whole season schedule being thrown off in terms of recruiting, summer practices and stuff.
The question is, is it better to:
1. stick with the current staff until the end of the fall season, then get someone hired during the usual timeframe when coaches are moving around to different jobs
or
2. go ahead and try to hire someone new after this spring season, hope you can find a good candidate (and that they can hire a decent staff), and treat this fall as a "lost season"
I don't know what the right answer is. I also feel badly for the players. I'm sure a lot of them are working hard, trying their hardest to make something happen, but right now we're just being outmatched/outcoached.
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We sure are asking him to do a lot of work.sealhall74 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:38 pm Saw a post on the Yote board today. Said best player on the team is the punter. Might be true for us as well.
9 punts, 43 yards per punt average
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- sealhall74
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If team football is played well, defense always feeds off offense an vice versa. That ain't happening for us.
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In fairness to him I think he had 3 years coach at the FCS and only one of those as a coordinator he was a lazy hire by Tanney.
No doubt he's a nice guy, but he's obviously in over his head.leatherneckcountry wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:48 pm In fairness to him I think he had 3 years coach at the FCS and only one of those as a coordinator he was a lazy hire by Tanney.
Looks like our last best chance at a win this season will be the last game against South Dakota. They pulled off a win against Illinois State to start the season, but lost to North Dakota and Missouri State, and are currently doing the same thing against YSU that we are against ISU, down 28-10 in the 4th quarter...which would be YSU's first win of the season as well.
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- sealhall74
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Sampson not the problem IMO. Scheme and talent around him are.
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