Time to Fire Billy Wright and Rebuild the Basketball Program

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Mr King wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:56 am
Bball Fan wrote:If we hire the right new Coach hopefully a young Juco or successful D-2 , they could be Coach of the Year in Summit with Conference Championship with the returning talent.
I think coach Jones should take over


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if billy goes we’re not going to make the same mistake of hiring someone all ready on the staff it hasn’t worked with Billy and hasn’t appeared to work out with coach Elliott.



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Mr King wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:35 pm if billy goes we’re not going to make the same mistake of hiring someone all ready on the staff it hasn’t worked with Billy and hasn’t appeared to work out with coach Elliott.
Absolutely. We need a fresh mindset!
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Mr King wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:35 pm
leatherneckcountry wrote:
Mr King wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:56 am
I think coach Jones should take over


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if billy goes we’re not going to make the same mistake of hiring someone all ready on the staff it hasn’t worked with Billy and hasn’t appeared to work out with coach Elliott.



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Just remember with the softball coach hiring fiasco, it looks like the requirement of a master's degree to be hired as a head coach is still in effect at WIU, so that will greatly reduce the probably already small pool of candidates for the job.
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I have always hated that requirement.
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vatusay wrote:I have always hated that requirement.
So just let the kids suffer


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Mr King wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:35 pm
vatusay wrote:I have always hated that requirement.
So just let the kids suffer


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I don't think he's saying anything of the sort. Western has, for some reason, a requirement that their head coaches have to have Masters degrees. This is something that has limited the pool of good candidates in the past and we're afraid that if we end up looking for a new basketball HC in the near future, that good candidates will get pushed aside because they don't meet a requirement that doesn't really apply to the job they're applying for. We need good candidates, regardless of their number of advanced degrees. If they've proven they can coach well, ideally at the DII level or as an assistant elsewhere at the DI level, then they should be given a fair shot.
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ST_Lawson wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:58 pm
Mr King wrote: Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:35 pm
vatusay wrote:I have always hated that requirement.
So just let the kids suffer


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I don't think he's saying anything of the sort. Western has, for some reason, a requirement that their head coaches have to have Masters degrees. This is something that has limited the pool of good candidates in the past and we're afraid that if we end up looking for a new basketball HC in the near future, that good candidates will get pushed aside because they don't meet a requirement that doesn't really apply to the job they're applying for. We need good candidates, regardless of their number of advanced degrees. If they've proven they can coach well, ideally at the DII level or as an assistant elsewhere at the DI level, then they should be given a fair shot.
Honestly when you look at most basketball coaches have a Masters so I don’t think that should be a problem.
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If a person can coach, they can coach. I don’t see how requiring a masters somehow increases their skill. If they have one, great, but to require it just to apply for the position is ridiculous to me. There are great coaches out there who have one and there are terrible coaches out there who have one. It has no effect on ability to coach this game in my opinion. Ones morals, Experience, social skills, ability to connect with the young men/women, and just overall character building are important traits in my eyes, not whether you have a masters degree in something that could be totally unrelated to basketball.

All you have to do is look three hours away at another state funded school in Champaign. Underwood wouldn’t even be able to put his name in the hat at WIU.

Just my .02.
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Always a gamble hiring a coach who has not proven him or herself to be a good recruiter.
Xs and Os mean very little if you dont have some talent to work with.
Kids these days play ball year round in HS and already benefit from very good weight training and conditioning programs
so the overall development impact a college coach can have is not near what it used to be.
Embrace the pace of the race.
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vatusay wrote:If a person can coach, they can coach. I don’t see how requiring a masters somehow increases their skill. If they have one, great, but to require it just to apply for the position is ridiculous to me. There are great coaches out there who have one and there are terrible coaches out there who have one. It has no effect on ability to coach this game in my opinion. Ones morals, Experience, social skills, ability to connect with the young men/women, and just overall character building are important traits in my eyes, not whether you have a masters degree in something that could be totally unrelated to basketball.

All you have to do is look three hours away at another state funded school in Champaign. Underwood wouldn’t even be able to put his name in the hat at WIU.

Just my .02.
In Billy’s bio he doesn’t say he has a Master Degree. Two other coaches ikon staff have them.


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