Yeah, talking about how faculty would not participate in furloughs, etc.wiu712 wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:58 am The faculty union at Western has been very quiet this spring. Last year at this time, the union president was seen frequently on both WGEM and KHQA newscasts talking about the budget's impact on the university.
Updates to faculty layoff plan and other stuff
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UIS faculty thinking of striking? 
What do they think that would solve? Only cause more disruption and hard feelings. My contempt for college faculty grows every day, and not because I think they are "liberal" or whatever. Because, they believe they are some how special and above the life of the school. I got news for them, master and doctoral degrees are a dime a dozen in today's world- easily obtained.You aren't special, you are a part of the school, but only a part of the school. You aren't entitled to anything, no more so than anyone else employed by the school. Maybe it is time some of them get real jobs.
Tenure should be eliminated. Oh, I forgot, it protects from thinking and controversy. I'm sure the faculty in Parks and Receration come up with a lot of political or social controversies.
What do they think that would solve? Only cause more disruption and hard feelings. My contempt for college faculty grows every day, and not because I think they are "liberal" or whatever. Because, they believe they are some how special and above the life of the school. I got news for them, master and doctoral degrees are a dime a dozen in today's world- easily obtained.You aren't special, you are a part of the school, but only a part of the school. You aren't entitled to anything, no more so than anyone else employed by the school. Maybe it is time some of them get real jobs.Tenure should be eliminated. Oh, I forgot, it protects from thinking and controversy. I'm sure the faculty in Parks and Receration come up with a lot of political or social controversies.
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Doctoral degrees are far from a "dime a dozen." US Census stats indicate that 1.1% of the US population has earned an academic doctorate, be that a PhD, DM, DBA, DHA, or EdD.leatherface wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:51 pm My contempt for college faculty grows every day ... because, they believe they are some how special and above the life of the school. I got news for them, master and doctoral degrees are a dime a dozen in today's world- easily obtained.
However, I can certainly agree with an impression of being "above the life of the school" when I review that denial and arrogance WIU's faculty union leadership exuded last year. Fortunately, despite the leadership's expectations, the WIU faculty forced a vote and supported being part of the solution. I can only hope the new leadership is willing to be part of the solution, much like they have at NEIU, where faculty are already part of the furloughs.
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Almost every day I run into someone working on their doctorate- in something. They are becoming easily obtained by a variety of sources- online etc. One of the most popular - and useless- the doctorate in educational leadership. A generic degree like organizational leadership. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but advanced degrees are being watered down.
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I have been too critical of all faculty. My experience is that about 25% are very open to helping in enrollment, fundraising and other campus activities. My sister works at a college where the union contract indicates the faculty aren't even required to have office hours- this at their request during negotiations. Not very student centric. I have even heard- more than once- these 25%'s mention at some college activities question why more faculty aren't engaged with the entire school. Done ranting- as rocki says, for now.
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I think you are poorly informed, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
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20 years in education-teaching and staff/administration. Day to day observation and experience. Maybe you are wearing blinders, and only have Western to draw from as experience. Maybe you need to get out of Macomb once in awhile- don't talk down to me.
More fallout as a result of the state budget impasse.
Late yesterday, Moody’s announced it was placing all seven of its rated public universities in Illinois under review for downgrade because of the state’s failure to enact a budget providing full operating funding to the universities for the current fiscal year FY 2017 and the resulting operational and liquidity strains on the universities. The total debt affected by these rating actions is $2.2 billion.
Northeastern Illinois University has been downgraded two notches from Ba2 to B1 because of the university’s continued rapid liquidity deterioration due to weakened cash flow, caused in part by the protracted state budget impasse.
Four of the seven state universities already have junk ratings on their bonds, while two others are within one or two levels of losing their investment-grade status. Only debt from the state’s flagship institution, the University of Illinois, is rated more than three steps above junk.
Moody’s says it will review credit ratings over the next 90 days for the University of Illinois, Illinois State University, Eastern Illinois University, Southern Illinois University, Northern Illinois University, and Governors State University.
Rauner's legacy will be highlighted by the destruction of the state universities on his watch. The surprising thing is the acquiescence of Republican legislators to this destruction of a vital asset in their districts.
Late yesterday, Moody’s announced it was placing all seven of its rated public universities in Illinois under review for downgrade because of the state’s failure to enact a budget providing full operating funding to the universities for the current fiscal year FY 2017 and the resulting operational and liquidity strains on the universities. The total debt affected by these rating actions is $2.2 billion.
Northeastern Illinois University has been downgraded two notches from Ba2 to B1 because of the university’s continued rapid liquidity deterioration due to weakened cash flow, caused in part by the protracted state budget impasse.
Four of the seven state universities already have junk ratings on their bonds, while two others are within one or two levels of losing their investment-grade status. Only debt from the state’s flagship institution, the University of Illinois, is rated more than three steps above junk.
Moody’s says it will review credit ratings over the next 90 days for the University of Illinois, Illinois State University, Eastern Illinois University, Southern Illinois University, Northern Illinois University, and Governors State University.
Rauner's legacy will be highlighted by the destruction of the state universities on his watch. The surprising thing is the acquiescence of Republican legislators to this destruction of a vital asset in their districts.
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So, you would prefer we kick the can down the road (yet again) instead of actually being responsible citizens and not budget money that doesn't exist? Or, better yet, since we're losing population hand over fist, tax the few that remain here to death? I don't get it.wiu712 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:49 am More fallout as a result of the state budget impasse.
Late yesterday, Moody’s announced it was placing all seven of its rated public universities in Illinois under review for downgrade because of the state’s failure to enact a budget providing full operating funding to the universities for the current fiscal year FY 2017 and the resulting operational and liquidity strains on the universities. The total debt affected by these rating actions is $2.2 billion.
Northeastern Illinois University has been downgraded two notches from Ba2 to B1 because of the university’s continued rapid liquidity deterioration due to weakened cash flow, caused in part by the protracted state budget impasse.
Four of the seven state universities already have junk ratings on their bonds, while two others are within one or two levels of losing their investment-grade status. Only debt from the state’s flagship institution, the University of Illinois, is rated more than three steps above junk.
Rauner's legacy will be highlighted by the destruction of the state universities on his watch. The surprising thing is the acquiescence of Republican legislators to this destruction of a vital asset in their districts.
You have identified the problem. The State has not had a budget since June 30, 2015.rocki wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:02 pmSo, you would prefer we kick the can down the road (yet again) instead of actually being responsible citizens and not budget money that doesn't exist?
The purpose of a budget is to match expenditures with revenue. Both the Governor and the General Assembly have failed to do their job to formulate a balanced budget.
As a result, the state universities are having to operate on only a fraction of their usual State funding. The fallout from that is causing high school seniors to look at colleges outside of Illinois.