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Western Illinois (0-6) @ North Dakota State Bison (4-2)
Date: 10/21/2023
Kickoff: 2:30 PM (Central)
Location: Fargodome, Fargo, ND
Media: ESPN+, Q98.1 FM
Game Notes: Western Illinois | North Dakota State

NDSU's Record and Stats
The Bison currently sit at a rather unexpected 4-2 and only 1-2 in the MFVC. They started off the season with wins over Eastern Washington (35-10), Maine (44-7) and Central Arkansas (49-31) but then were surprised by South Dakota at NDSU's Homecoming, falling 24-19. They then won at Missouri State 38-10, but followed that up with being on the receiving end of a 49-24 crushing by North Dakota (and really, it wasn't even that close...their last TD was in "garbage time"). They have also dropped out of the FCS top 10 for the first time since 2011. So, it looks like the Bison "dynasty" is over and they have fallen back from the realm of ludicrously better than the entire FCS to merely a really good FCS team. With a matchup at SDSU looming in early November, it's quite likely that NDSU will end up going 0-3 against all the Dakota schools for the first time since 2002 (when they were all still D2). Last year, NDSU finished 12-3, including a 56-17 steamrolling of our Leathernecks. NDSU holds a 10-2 series record, with our only wins coming in 2008 and 2010.
  • Quarterback Cam Miller leads the FCS and ranks third in all divisions with a 77.2 completion percentage through six games. Miller was 18-for-19 against Central Arkansas and his 94.7 completion rate was an NDSU single-game record for passers with more than 10 attempts. Miller completed his last 17 attempts against UCA and his first six against South Dakota to set a new NDSU record with 23 consecutive completions, breaking Brock Jensen's 2013 record of 21 straight against Kansas State (14) and Ferris State (7).
  • North Dakota State ranks eighth in the FCS converting 50.7% of its offensive third-down opportunities. Quarterback Cam Miller has picked up 11 first downs rushing and receivers Zach Mathis (7) and Eli Green (6) lead the team in third-down passing conversions. Overall, Mathis leads the Bison with 19 total first downs, Miller is second with 16, and Green is third with 13 followed by quarterback Cole Payton (12) and running back TaMerik Williams (10).
  • Bison kicker Griffin Crosa has made 115 consecutive PATs dating back to 2019, the fourth most in Missouri Valley Football Conference history and two shy of Adam Keller's mark of 117 straight for NDSU in the 2013 and 2014 seasons. Crosa is fourth all-time at NDSU in PATs made and fifth in attempts (159-for-160) and his career PAT percentage of 99.4 is second in school history behind Jake Reinholz, who was 87-for-87 from 2018 to 2021. Crosa is sixth all-time at NDSU with 30 field goals made and ranks first with an 83.3 career field goal percentage (30-for-36). Griffin Crosa is the younger brother of former Leatherneck kicker Sam Crosa.
View the full stat comparison between the two teams.

Chance of Victory
Massey says 1% chance of a WIU victory, with a predicted score of 44-10 for the Bison: https://masseyratings.com/game.php?gid=938288123
Sagarin says 5% chance of a win.
So...I'd say not very likely. Our best chance of a win the rest of the season is still Indiana State, who is also 0-6, including a 27-0 loss to EIU, a 2-point loss to fellow MVFC "cellar dweller" Murray State, and a 44-7 crushing by the other ISU last weekend.
 
 
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The neural network which did not do to well in our game with MSU has us a 30 point dog on Saturday.

  Game: 'Matchup',
  team1: { id: 'Western Ill.', score: 12.817 },
  team2: { id: 'North Dakota St.', score: 42.156 },
  Note: 'Team 1 assumed to be visitor team'
}

Also, I have enhanced my stat stuff to summarize the statistically strength of a team down to a single number (Euclidean Distance).  Here are the current rankings when combining all 47 NCAA stats into that single value.  The MVFC has a lot of presence at the top and bottom.  The OVC and Big South teams (excluding Lindenwood which has not earned its NCAA stat ranking wings yet) tend to permeate the middle of the ranks.   Based on this, I think the UNI and ISUb games are winnable although both on the road will be tough.  Next year things will get easier IMO.  Next week, I hope to include this stat summarization into some trend analysis to determine if teams are progressing or regressing as the season rolls along.

OOPS.  This looked nicely formatted while in editor.  Now it is a mess.  I will see if I can fix it.  At least it is readable now.

1Montana St.4.93647647619231
2South Dakota St.4.80608988679987
3Davidson4.72648918331567
4Chattanooga4.61540897429469
5Harvard4.55797103983779
6North Dakota4.50766014690549
7North Dakota St.4.37488285557454
8Sacramento St.4.37126983838793
9Illinois St.4.3596100743071
10South Dakota4.34497410809317
11Furman4.32869495344729
12Austin Peay4.30818987510996
13Lafayette4.30664602678233
14UIW4.29539288075026
15Columbia4.28802985064237
16Brown4.26200656968053
17Youngstown St.4.24028300942284
18SFA4.23706266179768
19N.C. Central4.22882962532188
20New Hampshire4.21467673730738
21Idaho4.21220844688389
22Yale4.19910704793293
23Western Caro.4.18249925283914
24William & Mary4.17740349978309
25Monmouth4.1761465491527
26Portland St.4.17565563714251
27Butler4.1720618403854
28Merrimack4.15227648405065
29Southern Ill.4.11111906906137
30Holy Cross4.10856422610138
31UT Martin4.07482514962299
32Villanova4.03866314515088
33Florida A&M4.03611199051761
34Cornell4.00552118955823
35Campbell3.99984999718739
36Penn3.99961248122865
37Eastern Ill.3.99702389284828
38Richmond3.989987468652
39Delaware3.9838674676751
40Eastern Ky.3.97723522060237
41Central Ark.3.97205236622077
42Montana3.9655138380795
43Fordham3.95686744786833
44Eastern Wash.3.90863147405841
45Abilene Christian3.90618739949839
46Georgetown3.88772427005826
47Kennesaw St.3.88480372734582
48Dartmouth3.87025838930684
49Southern U.3.82666957026603
50UAlbany3.82221140179347
51South Carolina St.3.80081570192505
52Princeton3.79959208336895
53Missouri St.3.7815869684565
54Alabama A&M3.77335394576231
55Rhode Island3.77007957475701
56Southeast Mo. St.3.76884597721902
57Jackson St.3.76567391047074
58Howard3.75133309638054
59Bryant3.73503681374093
60UC Davis3.71973117308227
61Alabama St.3.70368735181576
62Nicholls3.70220204743069
63Samford3.69881061964519
64Sacred Heart3.67627528893036
65Alcorn3.67457480533463
66Norfolk St.3.66346830203292
67Elon3.65625491452661
68Maine3.64927390038073
69Charleston So.3.64625835617829
70Gardner-Webb3.64433807432845
71Lamar University3.59790216654094
72Tennessee St.3.59155954983347
73Grambling3.59064061136728
74Duquesne3.57819787043702
75Houston Christian3.56350950609087
76Idaho St.3.52587577773239
77Central Conn. St.3.52566305820622
78Saint Francis (PA)3.50957262355404
79Stetson3.50680766509941
80Southern Utah3.50508202471782
81Morehead St.3.50332699016235
82Presbyterian3.4995571148361
83North Ala.3.4810774194206
84Weber St.3.47918093809448
85Hampton3.46710253670122
86Morgan St.3.45891601517007
87San Diego3.44650547656608
88Bethune-Cookman3.4425136165308
89Northern Ariz.3.42502554734998
90Drake3.42261595859074
91ETSU3.41085033386104
92Robert Morris3.39744021286615
93Mercer3.39222640753827
94Colgate3.37545552481439
95Marist3.34504110587598
96UNI3.34386004491815
97Tennessee Tech3.34302258442865
98VMI3.33052548406404
99Northern Colo.3.32227331807604
100Dayton3.2536133759253
101Northwestern St.3.24933839419658
102Valparaiso3.19599749687011
103LIU3.17483857857372
104Murray St.3.1681856006238
105Wagner3.14370800170754
106N.C. A&T3.12680347959382
107Ark.-Pine Bluff3.11332619556641
108Western Ill.3.10768402512225
109Stony Brook3.10230559423149
110Southeastern La.3.08998381872786
111McNeese3.06692027936821
112Delaware St.3.06262958909497
113Indiana St.3.05394826413284
114The Citadel3.03181463813341
115Towson3.01353612886921
116Wofford3.01144483595499
117Lehigh2.99736550991033
118Mississippi Val.2.9489489653095
119Prairie View2.94210808774933
120Texas Southern2.93307006394324
121Cal Poly2.93010238728956
122Bucknell2.88268971621991
 
 
 
 
 
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Is it too soon to get excited that we aren’t last?
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Rockydog wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:50 pm Is it too soon to get excited that we aren’t last?

 
I'd take just about anything as a "win" at this point.
 
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Not to take anything away from our "suckiness", but I do have to admit I'm enjoying seeing the Bison be less than dominant this year. Yeah, they'll still kick our butts, but they aren't exactly having their most stellar year.
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WGEM Prediction:  #15 North Dakota State 49,  Western Illinois 10
 
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i gotta give credit to the Bison.  We look bad but they are using their whole playbook to make us look that way.
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North Dakota State is up 38-0 at the half.

38 Total Yards for Western:  8 Passing and 30 Rushing.
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I know NDSU is a lot better, but still no reason to get manhandled and embarrassed like that. This was painful to watch.

The Bison were just playing with us. 

I feel like you need to change up starters or something. On the first defensive drive, we get 3rd and long and give up a 1st down then we just stopped competing... 

and the forward pass on our first kickoff... why......

I think coach has lost the team. Just watching them on the sideline they are laughing and don't seem to care.
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#15 North Dakota State won the game 52-7

Matt Morrissey was 8 of 13 for 71 yards.  1 Touchdown.  1 Interception.

Western had 184 Total Yards:  71 yards Passing.  113 yards Rushing.

Attendance at North Dakota State = 14,255
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