WIU at North Dakota State (11/7/2015)

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Date/Time: 11/7 at 2:30 PM
Location: NDSU's 19k seat Fargodome, Fargo, ND
Weather Forecast: Doesn't really matter...in a dome. But, if you do happen to be going to the game and maybe spending some time tailgating beforehand or whatever, Saturday is supposed to be sunny with a high of 45 and about 42 degrees at kickoff.
TV: Like all of our conference games this season, this will be available on ESPN3/WatchESPN.com. It will also be aired by NBC North Dakota.

NDSU's Record:
The Bison are 6-2, 4-1 in the conference. They started the season (a week early) with a loss at Montana (38-35) and then followed that up with 4 straight wins against Weber State (41-14), former conference rival North Dakota (34-9), at SDSU (28-7) and back home against UNI (31-28). They then had a surprising home loss to USD (24-21) and then went back on the road to defeat ISUb (28-14) and SIU (35-29). Following our game against them this week, NDSU will travel to YSU and finish out the season back home against MSU.

The History:
Western has played NDSU 6 times going back to 2007 with NDSU holding the advantage, winning 4 out of those 6 games. Oddly enough, we are actually undefeated at the Fargodome with our two wins in '08 and '10 coming up in Fargo. The Bison have won the last two meetings, in '11 and '14, both in Macomb.

Key Players:
Redshirt Freshman QB Easton Stick - With starting QB Carson Wentz down for the season due to injury, R-Fr. QB Easton Stick has stepped up for the two most recent games. Stick isn't quite the passer that Wentz is (not yet, anyway) but he's more of a running threat. In the two games he's started, he's passed for 264 yards, 3 TDs and 2 INTs. He has also rushed for 254 yards (127 per game) and 2 TDs.
Junior RB King Frazier - has 583 yards and 4 TDs through 8 games (72.9 yards per game). Frazier was the MVFC Offensive player of the week for his game last Saturday where he ran for 177 yards and a TD.
Junior RB Chase Morlock - has run for 208 yards and 4 TDs through 8 games (26.0 yards per game), and also caught 14 passes for 217 yards and 4 TDs
Sophomore WR RJ Urzendowski - 437 receiving yards and 5 TDs through 8 games (54.6 per game)
Senior WR Zach Vraa - 299 receiving yards and 2 TDs through 8 games (37.4 per game)
Junior LB Nick DeLuca - 76 tackles (30 solo), 3.5 for loss, 2 sacks, 1 INT, 5 pass breakups, and 1 forced fumble. DeLuca was the MVFC Defensive Player of the Week for his 20 tackle (4 solo) performance that included 1 for loss and 1 pass breakup and helped limit the running ability of SIU QB Mark Iannotti.
Sophomore DE Greg Menard - 36 tackles (12 solo), 9 for loss, 6 sacks, 7 QB hurries and 1 forced fumble
Senior CB CJ Smith - 24 tackles (20 solo), 2 for loss, 1 sack, 2 INTs, 6 pass breakups
Senior P/K Ben LeCompte - leads all of FCS with 46.5 yards per punt (on 40 punts) with a long of 73 yards, 9 TBs and 16 inside the 20. LeCompte also handles kickoffs, averaging 63.5 yards on 47 kicks with 20 TBs and 1 OB.

Stat Analysis:
Full Stat Comparison
In terms of the stat comparison, NDSU is ahead of us in most areas. We do, have better numbers on turnovers, both on fumbles lost by our offense, and on fumbles recovered and interceptions by our defense. From a straight numbers perspective, our offense has put up more yards than NDSU, but overall, they've put up an average of about 5 more points than we have and they give up an average of 8.4 points less than we do.

My View:
NDSU does seem to have lost a step from the last few years. They're not quite the unbeatable monster that they have been in the past 4 years, but even so, they're still a very good and very dangerous team. Their QB is young, but talented, especially when he's on the move, and as I said, their RBs and WRs don't put up huge numbers, but they get the job done and the NDSU defense has been strong enough to keep them in every game, even the two they've lost (by a total of 6 points). We have not been playing very well the last couple of games, but we have historically played well in the Fargodome and probably had our best game of the season in the other dome that we played in this season (defeating UNI 24-19), so we seem to do well in good weather/no weather (indoors). I still feel like our team is a bit better this year than last year and we nearly beat NDSU last year at our place. I think if we're going to win this game though, we have to win the turnover battle and get our offense moving...something that did not happen much of the last game and in the 4th quarter against Illinois State.
If you look at who we've played in common:
Northern Iowa - we won by 5, NDSU won by 3 (+2 for us)
South Dakota - we won by 19, NDSU lost by 3 (+22 for us)
Southern Illinois - we won by 1, NDSU won by 6 (+5 for them)
You'd think that'd give an advantage to us, but I think it's more just the product of the conference being very tough all around (except for MSU). There are obviously favorites in each game, but just about any team can beat just about any other team if a few breaks go one way or the other.

NDSU is playing for their 7th win, which would make them a lock for the playoffs. We are essentially playing a playoff scenario now...next loss and we're effectively out of the playoffs.
I'm not going to make a prediction as to what I think will happen because it all just depends on which team shows up. If it's the team that played in the first three conference games against SIU, USD, and UNI, then we've got a good shot at winning a close one. If it's the team that was on the field the last quarter against Illinois State or most of the Youngstown State game, then I see us losing by somewhere around 15-20 points. If we want any shot at the playoffs this year, we need to win this one. We can finish anywhere from 7-4 to 4-7 this season, and none of the remaining games are going to be easy.

Side note, NDSU will be rolling out an "alternate" uniform for their Harvest Bowl game with gold jerseys and green helmets (the first time they've had green helmets in at least 50 years). Harvest Bowl is NDSU's annual celebration of the connection between the university and the agriculture industry. So, it's kinda like our Ag Day, except it's a much bigger deal and they've been doing it a lot longer than we have.
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I paid $100+ for a standing room place to watch this one. I should feel right at home among the Bison crowd as they generally stand for the entire game anyway although it is rather nice to have a place to park your butt during those long media time outs. Looks like the Bison are starting to get some pre-playoff swagger back, especially with their running game. Their replacement QB Easton Stick is showing some youthfulness but he is a better runner than Wentz so very dangerous with the ball in his hands. If we bring the "A" game we can compete with them. If not, I will probably be able to grab a seat somewhere in the Fargodome on or about halftime.
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BisoNation should be ready to rock for this game, after 2 road games and a pitiful home game vs south Dakota, there should be some angry and loud fans at this harvest bowl game Im hoping.

ps Seahall. its Deer Opening weekend, so private message me on Friday and ill let you know where can you find a seat to sit in ok buddy??


NDSU as a team has found its running game with FR QB Easton Stick after Wentz went down. Hopefully its Ground and Pound and the defense stays tough for a close game in my opinion.

NDSU 24
WIU 16
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Lakes, I love my team, but I'm also not so in love with them that I lose touch with reality. For me the question is not about winning, but about whether we even make our presence known and/or lay down some building blocks for the rest of the year on into next season.

I really wish we would see some different offensive plays. It's so predictable.
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I have a question for you Lakesbison. I tried joining your Fan Forum about 24hrs ago to join the discussion concerning NDST and WIU and have never received a email to finish the confirmation. Is that Forum pretty mush closed to outsiders?
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huskie wrote:I have a question for you Lakesbison. I tried joining your Fan Forum about 24hrs ago to join the discussion concerning NDST and WIU and have never received a email to finish the confirmation. Is that Forum pretty mush closed to outsiders?
They must be busy cleaning their guns and/or running out to get some ammo. ;)
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huskie wrote:I have a question for you Lakesbison. I tried joining your Fan Forum about 24hrs ago to join the discussion concerning NDST and WIU and have never received a email to finish the confirmation. Is that Forum pretty mush closed to outsiders?
no, Huskies but the mods approve all newbies, must be behind
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Looks like the boys are taking the "Casino Express" up to Fargo. Hope they hit the jackpot. Bad news is I won't be in the house to see it or the Wisconsin BB game next week (back spasms better but still there). Good news is I bought the travel insurance for this trip and I hardly ever do that.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CXP700

FYI, it is not cheap to take these charters but you really don't have any choice if you want to compete. If you bus it, you would probably need to leave on Thursday and give them a day to recover from buslag. Below is an estimate for this trip to Fargo.

http://www.privatefly.com/private-jet-c ... ch=2034855#
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So do or die from here out. I sure hope they've practiced nothing but new formations/wrinkles and plays this week.

We're a pretty conservative team and that's not always a bad thing, but if we're conservative and hope their players or coaches make more mistakes we'll have no chance. I'm sure there's been some stuff offensively and defensively we've practices, but haven't used because we're more comfortable with what we've been running. The time is now to bust it out as their preparation to stop our same old same old will be at a higher level than what we feel works best for us. Even if we exhaust everything in our book and have nothing left for the following 2 weeks, we need this one more.

Let's move some people around on offense. Let's run some rubs and hell lets straight-up pick and make the refs make the call. Misdirection and setup some trickery.....a little taste back to them on what beat us last year with their half back pass to the Wentz. We've seen one pass from Smith, but have 2 other WR that were HS Qb's in Williams and Acklin. Tried one onces last year with Acklin, but there was a pentalty on the play. Flee flicker? Most teams don't stay home for Norvel after the give, so toss it back out as he's moving to the right for some space.

Defense needs to bring no stop pressure on blitzes and rotate at all levels to keep bodies fresh, we have some depth to do so. No delayed blitzes as they've been picked up or read early and gives them easy reads in our soft coverage. Get up on the line bring six, forces them to go one on one and someone beat the TE or RB picking up. Force the young QB to run sooner than he should or force a pass. He's athletic and will likely rack up yards running against us anyways, so force him with pressure. Get the corners up tight early and see what he's capable of. Wentz would probably find the mismatch and beat us all day, but who knows about this guy. Let's find out!!!!!

Have it be up to us.....this young athletic QB either has the game of his life or worst game of his life.

We still have a good chance to lose being super aggressive, but feel 100% we'll lose being the same old same old. Save that for ISUb.

Can't pick us to lose, so WIU 24 - NDSU 14 (if we're aggressive......and it works)
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sealhall74 wrote:Looks like the boys are taking the "Casino Express" up to Fargo. Hope they hit the jackpot. Bad news is I won't be in the house to see it or the Wisconsin BB game next week (back spasms better but still there). Good news is I bought the travel insurance for this trip and I hardly ever do that.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CXP700

FYI, it is not cheap to take these charters but you really don't have any choice if you want to compete. If you bus it, you would probably need to leave on Thursday and give them a day to recover from buslag. Below is an estimate for this trip to Fargo.

http://www.privatefly.com/private-jet-c ... ch=2034855#
Yea, it's a 10 hour drive from Macomb to Fargo. As you said, they'd have to leave probably Thursday morning and attempt to get a good night's sleep in the hotel on Thursday night. And coming back would be all day Sunday. I've done long stretches on a charter bus before...having to do that twice with a football game in between would not be a fun experience for anyone. What's the limit for taking a bus to an away game...5...6 hours? I assume we'd bus to the ISUs, Southern, UNI, maybe MSU (that's about 5 1/4 hours), and fly to games at YSU and the Dakotas.
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